connachtexile wrote: NOC off to Jersey next season.

poor mark mccrea cant shake NOC off.

both started with ulster senior team in 2007/2008 till 2011/2012 when they moved here.

now both at jersey who just about stayed in the championship
they also signed lock nick campbell from glasgow

Saw that and damien browne joining oyennaix i thinl they are called. Promoted to top14 for next season anyway.

NOC off to Jersey next season.

rossie wrote:

sea_point wrote:

phatguerilla wrote: Agree that he was more impressive than Bent, he's been fairly decent all season and I think he's been treated pretty poorly by Leinster. The second string team in general get a bit of a raw deal, especially when they are in important positions like Hagan, as its very hard to impress at TH when the rest of the pack around you would not be up to heineken rugby standard for instance.

A three year deal is a big show of faith imo, considering the type of players who have received 3 year deals here lately. There are 5 other props at LI assuming none of them are leaving (although some might be or else why would they have signed Hagan?), which would suggest he will still have quite a fight on his hands to get consistent first team rugby.

They're losing Alex Corbisiero this summer, so Hagan is a direct replacement. His only chance of fitting in at Leinster was if he was Top 6 schools or from SH, the same issue that brought him west (he felt her didn't fit in).

If they look after him at the Reading Not-Nots, they'll end up with a test class prop.

i thought corbisiero is a LH? at least thats where he plays for England when fit.

Covers both sides actually for Irish.

I remember him from back at schools level he was primarily tighthead, he was at the American School in Cobham (near me and not far from Chelsea's training ground) and up to England U-20's ...

www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/int...lives-the-dream.html

He has a chronic knee problem so they may be moving him across to ease the load and prolong his career..

Shane Monahan ‏@themainmanmono
Im Delighted and honoured to be able to play for Gloucester rugby for another two years, such a fantastic squad and such awesome support!

well done to him, they hardly hand out 2year contract to everyone. they must really see something in him

Dam! Hope he's ok. It's going to be a long road back for him with an injury like that

MARK MCCREA had op this morning. Ligaments torn and fibia fracture!= ankle fucked

I would have liked to see Hagan back too but I doubt he would have been keen on being behind White twice at two different provinces. Maybe he could have pushed ahead of White but it wasn't guaranteed, plus LI is a clean slate, as already said hopefully it will be good for him. I think he's a good player who can become much better and even after 3 years will still be young for a prop. Its a shame he left Connacht but I can't imagine he learnt nothing at Leinster.

good point swifty. 5 could have worked in that format. budget prob got in way tho. the signings so far cant have been cheap.
wud have been harsh on ronan though who has done very well and jamie wasnt going to be no2 or 3 here.
there bealham LH, reilly and dever Th in acadamy.

i think we missed out on getting hagan back. should of let rodney and cooney go. get hagan in.
we then would have 5 props on our books, buckley and wilko at LH and white and hagan at TH with locks being able to cover both.
we have 2 props i think coming up, and at a guess another joining the acedamy

connachtexile wrote: Ryan went on a loan to L.I. but when he came back some other club asked for Ryan and was offered Cronin instead pretty sure he went but I might be mixing him up with Ryan. It was at the start of the season and I don't follow Munster as closely as I used to.

EDIT: Yes! It was Cotter not Cronin. Thanks for that.

i see where the mix up is. ryan went to LI and came back after a month. Cotter went and replaced him. Cotter then went to Bath for a month. Afaik Ryan was at Bath also. Cronin could do with a 3 mth spell over there but there is high hopes for him to share LH next season. might be too soon imo.

salmson wrote: Good point Rossie, but the starting tighthead Aulika has tended to be moved over to loosehead when Corbisiero is unavailable, so his going might still benefit Hagan if this becomes a permanent shift.

Hagan will play regularly for Irish. He will power up again after leinsters attempts to change his game and will probably do well there. I was really hoping that he was heading south. He would have been a decent addition and probably shifted Bj during season assuming he stays. Chance lost for International team imo.(and munster).

makes a mockery of all these policy announcements from irfu re international team.

Ryan went on a loan to L.I. but when he came back some other club asked for Ryan and was offered Cronin instead pretty sure he went but I might be mixing him up with Ryan. It was at the start of the season and I don't follow Munster as closely as I used to.

EDIT: Yes! It was Cotter not Cronin. Thanks for that.

connachtexile wrote: I think L.I really wanted an Irish prop. Remember when I said they were after James Cronin at Munster? I have no idea what the thinking behind it is except maybe Hagan was going cheap and Irish props have being impressing when they've gone over recently i.e. James Cronin again. Think Hagan will do well there it's more forward orientated and will suit his style better.

where did u hear/read that cronin was at LI? i cant find reference to it anywhere. are you sure you arent talking about John Ryan?

or alan cotter even?

Good point Rossie, but the starting tighthead Aulika has tended to be moved over to loosehead when Corbisiero is unavailable, so his going might still benefit Hagan if this becomes a permanent shift.

sea_point wrote:

phatguerilla wrote: Agree that he was more impressive than Bent, he's been fairly decent all season and I think he's been treated pretty poorly by Leinster. The second string team in general get a bit of a raw deal, especially when they are in important positions like Hagan, as its very hard to impress at TH when the rest of the pack around you would not be up to heineken rugby standard for instance.

A three year deal is a big show of faith imo, considering the type of players who have received 3 year deals here lately. There are 5 other props at LI assuming none of them are leaving (although some might be or else why would they have signed Hagan?), which would suggest he will still have quite a fight on his hands to get consistent first team rugby.

They're losing Alex Corbisiero this summer, so Hagan is a direct replacement. His only chance of fitting in at Leinster was if he was Top 6 schools or from SH, the same issue that brought him west (he felt her didn't fit in).

If they look after him at the Reading Not-Nots, they'll end up with a test class prop.

i thought corbisiero is a LH? at least thats where he plays for England when fit.